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		<title>By: Theo</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6107</link>
		<author>Theo</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6107</guid>
					<description>Offering benefits to the homosexual partner of any faculty member is a bad idea. It can easily be taken advantage of. A straight professor could get together with one of his buddies and say theyre homosexual and wrongfully obtain the benefits that the homosexual faculty members get.

Its not something that should be implemented into the benefits package for faculty members at UNO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Offering benefits to the homosexual partner of any faculty member is a bad idea. It can easily be taken advantage of. A straight professor could get together with one of his buddies and say theyre homosexual and wrongfully obtain the benefits that the homosexual faculty members get.</p>
<p>Its not something that should be implemented into the benefits package for faculty members at UNO.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Michaelis</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6109</link>
		<author>Kyle Michaelis</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 04:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6109</guid>
					<description>Theo-

Do you really know many straight people willing to fake 'out' themselves as homosexuals to get health benefits?  If so, you hang with a peculiar crowd. 

Regardless, by your logic, we shouldn't have benefits for wives and husbands either because people could just as well have sham marriages to cheat and take advantage of these opportunities. 

The potential for fraud always exists, but there are better ways to address it than to maintain a discriminatory policy that makes our campuses less attractive to diverse faculty and, hence, less able to meet the educational/environmental needs of students.  We are really just shooting ourselves in the foot by with-holding these benefits - it's petty and does nothing but cater in needless and cowardly fashion to those who wish to maintain the 2nd-class status of GLBT citizens.

We can and should do better, as this post makes clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theo-</p>
<p>Do you really know many straight people willing to fake &#8216;out&#8217; themselves as homosexuals to get health benefits?  If so, you hang with a peculiar crowd. </p>
<p>Regardless, by your logic, we shouldn&#8217;t have benefits for wives and husbands either because people could just as well have sham marriages to cheat and take advantage of these opportunities. </p>
<p>The potential for fraud always exists, but there are better ways to address it than to maintain a discriminatory policy that makes our campuses less attractive to diverse faculty and, hence, less able to meet the educational/environmental needs of students.  We are really just shooting ourselves in the foot by with-holding these benefits - it&#8217;s petty and does nothing but cater in needless and cowardly fashion to those who wish to maintain the 2nd-class status of GLBT citizens.</p>
<p>We can and should do better, as this post makes clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6110</link>
		<author>Theo</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6110</guid>
					<description>I stand by my opinion that UNO should not have same sex benefits. A husband/wife marriage is a lot more official than someone's life partner.

I'm not generalizing, but I'm sick of people taking their freedom for granted. People are given massive amounts of freedom, and after awhile, that's not enough. They want more and more, as if the freedom they have is not enough. It's ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand by my opinion that UNO should not have same sex benefits. A husband/wife marriage is a lot more official than someone&#8217;s life partner.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not generalizing, but I&#8217;m sick of people taking their freedom for granted. People are given massive amounts of freedom, and after awhile, that&#8217;s not enough. They want more and more, as if the freedom they have is not enough. It&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel O</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6111</link>
		<author>Daniel O</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6111</guid>
					<description>Kyle, if you are comparing marriage and couples, you need to analysis you fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, if you are comparing marriage and couples, you need to analysis you fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel O</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6112</link>
		<author>Daniel O</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6112</guid>
					<description>"your fight"...sorry, i need to read before i post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;your fight&#8221;&#8230;sorry, i need to read before i post</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sund</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6113</link>
		<author>Dave Sund</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6113</guid>
					<description>Daniel, there's no such thing as a homosexual marriage, because lawmakers are too bigoted and homophobic to allow it. Those who would be receiving benefits would likely be married if the law allowed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, there&#8217;s no such thing as a homosexual marriage, because lawmakers are too bigoted and homophobic to allow it. Those who would be receiving benefits would likely be married if the law allowed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6125</link>
		<author>Tyler</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6125</guid>
					<description>You're right Theo, the righteous government "gives" us way too much freedom. Personally, I think freedom of religion is getting way out of control. The government should force everyone to become Southern Baptists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Theo, the righteous government &#8220;gives&#8221; us way too much freedom. Personally, I think freedom of religion is getting way out of control. The government should force everyone to become Southern Baptists.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufino</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6126</link>
		<author>Rufino</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6126</guid>
					<description>hehehe. hohoho. hahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehe. hohoho. hahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6127</link>
		<author>Theo</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6127</guid>
					<description>There is always something you people have to complain about. Nothing is ever good enough for you people. You should be ashamed of yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always something you people have to complain about. Nothing is ever good enough for you people. You should be ashamed of yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Sioux City</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6128</link>
		<author>Sioux City</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6128</guid>
					<description>Theo, your first argument was completely dismantled by Kyle. If Kyle’s response was not here, I would have posted the exact same thing.

After your argument was shot down, you now are saying that we shouldn’t have same sex benefits at UNO because that pushes the limits of freedom in the United States. That is an even crazier argument than your first one.

Now, after Tyler belittled your argument, you have resorted to calling the people of this group, chief, and others cry babies. It’s disappointing that you need to resort to that.

If you would come up with a logical reason to oppose same sex benefits, then the people that comment on this blog would have a much higher respect for you. Instead, you made up arguments that weren’t clearly thought out and make no sense when you analyze the situation.

I would respect you more if you said that your religion teaches you that homosexuals are dirty sinners, and the government should not reward dirty sinners. Instead, you’ve tried to shroud your homophobic nature in irrational and poorly thought out excuses. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theo, your first argument was completely dismantled by Kyle. If Kyle’s response was not here, I would have posted the exact same thing.</p>
<p>After your argument was shot down, you now are saying that we shouldn’t have same sex benefits at UNO because that pushes the limits of freedom in the United States. That is an even crazier argument than your first one.</p>
<p>Now, after Tyler belittled your argument, you have resorted to calling the people of this group, chief, and others cry babies. It’s disappointing that you need to resort to that.</p>
<p>If you would come up with a logical reason to oppose same sex benefits, then the people that comment on this blog would have a much higher respect for you. Instead, you made up arguments that weren’t clearly thought out and make no sense when you analyze the situation.</p>
<p>I would respect you more if you said that your religion teaches you that homosexuals are dirty sinners, and the government should not reward dirty sinners. Instead, you’ve tried to shroud your homophobic nature in irrational and poorly thought out excuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sund</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6135</link>
		<author>Dave Sund</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6135</guid>
					<description>He doesn't, of course, because there is no logical reason for such opposition. Even if he says that it's against his religion, it's still unconstitutional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn&#8217;t, of course, because there is no logical reason for such opposition. Even if he says that it&#8217;s against his religion, it&#8217;s still unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6136</link>
		<author>Theo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6136</guid>
					<description>I wasn't trying to say that same sex benefits are pushing limits of freedom. I simply said many people take their freedom for granted. Same sex benefits are still a poor idea, and I guarantee they will not be implemented.

Oh...and homosexuals are dirty dirty sinners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to say that same sex benefits are pushing limits of freedom. I simply said many people take their freedom for granted. Same sex benefits are still a poor idea, and I guarantee they will not be implemented.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;and homosexuals are dirty dirty sinners.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel O</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6137</link>
		<author>Daniel O</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6137</guid>
					<description>Dave -
so you are saying you want two homosexuals, that are dating, to get benefits 
and that heterosexuals, shouldn't get the same benefits. 
I don't see how you are taking a fair and unbiased look at this problem. 
It sounds more to me, like you are on an agenda. 

Sometimes meeting halfway will take you twice as far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave -<br />
so you are saying you want two homosexuals, that are dating, to get benefits<br />
and that heterosexuals, shouldn&#8217;t get the same benefits.<br />
I don&#8217;t see how you are taking a fair and unbiased look at this problem.<br />
It sounds more to me, like you are on an agenda. </p>
<p>Sometimes meeting halfway will take you twice as far.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sund</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6138</link>
		<author>Dave Sund</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6138</guid>
					<description>Well, let's see, since heterosexuals have the benefits of marriage and homosexuals don't? Don't even try to pull an equal protection card until you're prepared to say that homosexuals have the same rights as anyone else in this country. Otherwise, you clearly have an agenda.

My "agenda," if you want to call it that, is making sure that every American is protected by the Constitution, not just those who agree with narrowminded views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s see, since heterosexuals have the benefits of marriage and homosexuals don&#8217;t? Don&#8217;t even try to pull an equal protection card until you&#8217;re prepared to say that homosexuals have the same rights as anyone else in this country. Otherwise, you clearly have an agenda.</p>
<p>My &#8220;agenda,&#8221; if you want to call it that, is making sure that every American is protected by the Constitution, not just those who agree with narrowminded views.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6140</link>
		<author>Theo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6140</guid>
					<description>So I suppose that says something?

Tell me Dave, do you pledge allegiance under God? or do you pledge allegiance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I suppose that says something?</p>
<p>Tell me Dave, do you pledge allegiance under God? or do you pledge allegiance?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sund</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6141</link>
		<author>Dave Sund</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6141</guid>
					<description>How is that even relevant? The First Amendment says that Congress (and by extension, according to court precedent, the government at any level), shall make no law establishing a religion. Now, you may not think that putting your religion in our schools is particularly exclusive to anyone. Saying that you're justified in advocating the imposition of one narrow-minded groups goals on the entire population, based on the fact that most of us believe in God is incredibly bad logic.

I believe in God. But I don't believe in a God that would condone the slaughter of innocents in the name of democracy. I don't believe in a God that would punish people for how he made them. I don't believe in a God that is a close friend of George W. Bush, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, and Jerry Falwell. My idea of God is far more just and loving than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is that even relevant? The First Amendment says that Congress (and by extension, according to court precedent, the government at any level), shall make no law establishing a religion. Now, you may not think that putting your religion in our schools is particularly exclusive to anyone. Saying that you&#8217;re justified in advocating the imposition of one narrow-minded groups goals on the entire population, based on the fact that most of us believe in God is incredibly bad logic.</p>
<p>I believe in God. But I don&#8217;t believe in a God that would condone the slaughter of innocents in the name of democracy. I don&#8217;t believe in a God that would punish people for how he made them. I don&#8217;t believe in a God that is a close friend of George W. Bush, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, and Jerry Falwell. My idea of God is far more just and loving than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6142</link>
		<author>Theo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6142</guid>
					<description>Watch the movie Time Changer and tell me what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch the movie Time Changer and tell me what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel O</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6144</link>
		<author>Daniel O</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-6144</guid>
					<description>Dave - 
i am guessing that you don't know where i stand on gay civil unions.

just think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave -<br />
i am guessing that you don&#8217;t know where i stand on gay civil unions.</p>
<p>just think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: essie</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-11446</link>
		<author>essie</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-11446</guid>
					<description>So very cool format. Not everyone has to 100% agree. You made my day.Super fun website!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very cool format. Not everyone has to 100% agree. You made my day.Super fun website!.</p>
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		<title>By: Bortriys</title>
		<link>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-30331</link>
		<author>Bortriys</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/11/09/same-sex-benefits/#comment-30331</guid>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute, very cute&#8230; Thanks man!<br />
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