Comments on: Firework in Elkhorn http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/ Fri, 16 May 2008 04:28:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Charles http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-2401 Charles Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:37:01 +0000 http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-2401 I would agree with your second comment, but I keep asking myself where is the line of responsibility drawn? Do these and other organizations have an ethical or legal responsibility to terminate a sale if they know without a doubt that their product will be used illegally? Ethical yes, but legal? Probably not. The most significant issue is how much do they need to know about the customer before they can make that descision. Should they be asking for proof of residency? Even still, how do they know the customer wont light them off at a cabin outside city limits. Or what about someone like me that lives out of city limits but would have to drive through the city to transport them back to my house? These organizations do have a responsibility to ensure within reason that their product is used legally and responsibly. I would assert that even if they were used legally they are not always used responsibly. I would say that if no indication is made as to how the product will be used they have no legal responsibility to terminate the sale. Ethics may be different but even still by imposing your own judgement as to what you think someone may do with your product you are treating that person with some degree of prejudice. This creates a different ethical question. Do you treat someone differently based on what you think they will do or what you know about them for sure? Its a terribly sticky situation and I'm sure they feel that the benefits of the income outweigh any ethical risk God might judge them at fault for. I would agree with your second comment, but I keep asking myself where is the line of responsibility drawn?

Do these and other organizations have an ethical or legal responsibility to terminate a sale if they know without a doubt that their product will be used illegally? Ethical yes, but legal? Probably not.

The most significant issue is how much do they need to know about the customer before they can make that descision. Should they be asking for proof of residency? Even still, how do they know the customer wont light them off at a cabin outside city limits. Or what about someone like me that lives out of city limits but would have to drive through the city to transport them back to my house?

These organizations do have a responsibility to ensure within reason that their product is used legally and responsibly. I would assert that even if they were used legally they are not always used responsibly. I would say that if no indication is made as to how the product will be used they have no legal responsibility to terminate the sale.

Ethics may be different but even still by imposing your own judgement as to what you think someone may do with your product you are treating that person with some degree of prejudice. This creates a different ethical question. Do you treat someone differently based on what you think they will do or what you know about them for sure?

Its a terribly sticky situation and I’m sure they feel that the benefits of the income outweigh any ethical risk God might judge them at fault for.

]]> By: Diane Hayes http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-2405 Diane Hayes Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:51:06 +0000 http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-2405 I don't "get" fireworks. I'm convinced it's genetic and particular to a specific gender. In a million years, I can't imagine seeing females sitting outside in the heat and shooting off fireworks well into the early morning - there's something about some males that makes them want to blow things up. Our neighbors, (known inaffectionately as the Grucci Brothers) were going at it until 3 a.m. Not only do you NOT lift the ban but they should keep the ban and put one hell of a fine on top of it. Omaha coffers would be increased by a million bucks over a weekend. I don’t “get” fireworks. I’m convinced it’s genetic and particular to a specific gender. In a million years, I can’t imagine seeing females sitting outside in the heat and shooting off fireworks well into the early morning - there’s something about some males that makes them want to blow things up. Our neighbors, (known inaffectionately as the Grucci Brothers) were going at it until 3 a.m. Not only do you NOT lift the ban but they should keep the ban and put one hell of a fine on top of it. Omaha coffers would be increased by a million bucks over a weekend.

]]> By: adam http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-2406 adam Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:39:33 +0000 http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-2406 Fireworks are produced in China. Buying fireworks just increases the federal trade deficits. On a similar note, the U.S. congress is just about to pass CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Agreement). This must not happen. Fireworks are produced in China. Buying fireworks just increases the federal trade deficits. On a similar note, the U.S. congress is just about to pass CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Agreement). This must not happen.

]]> By: Mike M http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-2603 Mike M Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:51:50 +0000 http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-2603 Diane, I would have to agree with your observation. I am thoroughly obsessed with fireworks, but I do know where to draw the line. We went down to Missouri this year to get some of the more "illegal" fireworks, mainly bottle rockets. We stopped before 10:00pm every night though. We were not up that late lighting off fireworks, and we only lit them off on the 3rd and 4th, and a little bit during the daytime on the 5th. Some people are just stupid with them. Anyone can play with fire, its the irresponsible ones that get burned. Diane, I would have to agree with your observation. I am thoroughly obsessed with fireworks, but I do know where to draw the line. We went down to Missouri this year to get some of the more “illegal” fireworks, mainly bottle rockets. We stopped before 10:00pm every night though. We were not up that late lighting off fireworks, and we only lit them off on the 3rd and 4th, and a little bit during the daytime on the 5th. Some people are just stupid with them. Anyone can play with fire, its the irresponsible ones that get burned.

]]> By: Welcome to Omaha… Elkhorn at U. of Nebraska - Omaha College Democrats Blog http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-29417 Welcome to Omaha… Elkhorn at U. of Nebraska - Omaha College Democrats Blog Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:07:57 +0000 http://www.unodemocrats.com/blog/2005/07/05/elkhorn-fireworks/#comment-29417 [...] The real losers in all of this are the Elkhorn fireworks stands.  I almost forgot how funny I was when I was younger; now I’m just old and bitter. [...] […] The real losers in all of this are the Elkhorn fireworks stands.  I almost forgot how funny I was when I was younger; now I’m just old and bitter. […]

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