Comments on: Un-Friendly Police Record

By: ptgustan

ptgustan — Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:08:21 +0000

So it is casting aspersions J. Edgar Hoover style, is it? The comparison is apt. Its like the fairy tale says: If the glass slipper fits…..

http://feedlot.blogspot.com/2005/03/mike-fahey-and-j-edgar-hoover.html

By: Omaha Voter

Omaha Voter — Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:17:05 +0000

PTGUSTAN,

I don’t know who you are, but perhaps you should read the paper. The documents were obtained by the WORLD HERALD, being as they are public information. If you want to post on our board you are more than welcome, but save your libelous B.S. for your own P.O.S. blog.

By: john

john — Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:42:28 +0000

I’d like to point out that we quoted the incident he is most proud of, and a story he likes to tell other people. I don’t think the gun story is going to get him any flack.

Though I do think it casts him as a kind of reckless person, which might work for a city council race, but I think people are leary of a reckless mayor or gov.

By: Daniel O

Daniel O — Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:22:13 +0000

If these men served us so well, you should encourage us to find out more about their history, not hide it.

By: Amanda

Amanda — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 04:47:25 +0000

This is just another reminder that Dave Friend sucks and that he is a worthless mayoral canidate. Hey whatever happened to our rally for Fahey Senator ‘08?!? Anyways PTgustan i went to your blog and it sucked ass, it doesn’t make any sense, are you one of those guys who is going to post shit on a blog and then commit a murder/suicide and we will all say, “oh remember that psycho that wrote on a blog”. Peace out.

By: J.T.

J.T. — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:12:28 +0000

I’ve been observing the organization, the College Democrats, since I became a student at UNO and I’ve noticed some conflict in the messages presented by the organization as a whole and the individual members themselves. For the most part, I seen a lot of good. Your opinions are free willed and expressive to say the least. This is what should be expected from such a group. I am impressed by the author of this website in particular. The writer of these articles does their best to get well researched information to the public with just a bit lacking so that the reader will look into the subject more and form an oppinion. However, comments such as the one made above by Amanda are un-called for and uneducated. Our nation’s democratic system relies on varied political outlooks that often directly conflict with each other. Unfortunately, this often results in useless slander and whatnot. This is just another part of the system that we as a people have gotten used to and, so, has become just as much a part of the competition as actual politcal stances that can better our nation.
PTgustan reacted in a defensive manner at the attack reptorted by the newspaper. He compared Friend’s accuser to a questionable personality in an attempt to level the playing field, even if the playing field is a small, personally sized one. However, it was based on principle, which sadly was not how several of the commentators above based their responses.

–”Anyways PTgustan i went to your blog and it sucked ass…”

Things like this are useless and ignorant. I hate to say it so harshly, but for an organization that is applying for the best student organization on campus, I’d think a little more of it’s members. This does not fit in with your groups goals of educating the student body, nor recruting people to your politcal standpoint.

–”are you one of those guys who is going to post shit on a blog and then commit a murder/suicide and we will all say, “oh remember that psycho that wrote on a blog”… ”

This is another regretable example. I don’t know if your organization has any sort of warning system or such, but I suggest a talk with Amanda.

On that note, I’d like to commend several others who post on this site. Constructive critism is the key to out government. Daniel and john did not take personal offense to the politcal attack on the group. I applaud you both.

If you’d like to discuss anything I’ve said with me, my e-mail is jgrachek@mail.unomaha.edu, and my AIM sn is ThisIsntNotJT.

thank you,
J.T.

By: Omaha Voter

Omaha Voter — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:57:15 +0000

JT, you seem to be missing the fact that PTGUSTAN blatantly lied in his post. Perhaps Amanda’s post was not the most mature, but hers was not libelous. Click the link and see if ANY of it is true. Calling Franklin Thompson one of the Mayor’s “stooges” is laughable at best, and it is only one of many lies and half-truths in his post. Also, being as posts on the blog are open to the public, the opinions of the poster do not represent the opinions of the blog.

By: J.T.

J.T. — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:43:27 +0000

I didn’t mean to validate PT gustan’s post, I only meant that he was defending himself politically. Plenty of politicians lie, and that doesn’t make it right, but at the same time coming back with simple insults is almost just as bad.

I also apologize to the assumption that Amanda was part of the blog was unintentional as well. I reasoned that she was part of the UNO Democrats from reading her previous comments. Thank you.

By: Abbey

Abbey — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:56:38 +0000

Amanda is a part of UNO Dems, but I don’t see why we have to “have a talk” with her. I hardly think that any of us can control what anyone else says. Amanda is entitled to her opinion, and I think its sad that you think we should be restricting ideas on the blog.

It’s the marketplace of ideas. It’s harsh.

By: Amanda

Amanda — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:30:35 +0000

First of all I would like to defend myself in saying, that I am not trying to change the world by writing in this blog. All I am doing is expressing my opinions, (freedom of speech) and yes they may be harsh, but if you went to his website perhaps you would be as disgusted as I was. Sorry if my way of expressing my feelings was too much for some of you to handle. And sorry to any of the college dems if you were offended, but I have no one else to apologize to. And I read a story in PEOPLE mag about a girl who killed her mother, and she wrote distressful and ridiculous statements about life on a blog, and I am just giving a statement that his writings seem similar to her statements made on the blog. Also, 10 people were killed a week or so ago in Red Lake Minnesota by a young boy who also wrote disturbing things, some including politics, on his blog. So there, I was just wondering if he was one of those guys who surfs the web looking for blogs to post his comments on and then after getting positive feedback from his comments, decides to act on his feelings and harm people. Thats all. I would suggest you visit his site and see what he has to say about life, the pope, and terri.

By: J.T.

J.T. — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 03:57:38 +0000

I don’t excpect one person to change the world on a website, and yes, you do have freedom of speech. However, i wouldn’t think that it represents your organization very well to spread slander where it’s already overflowing. It’s pointless and I simply can’t respect it. the UNO dems do great things, but it doesn’t help your image when you take personal offense to political under-handedness and handle it the wrong way.

I do apologize if I was harsh on Amanda. Like I said, I’m rather new to the political environment here at UNO, and I thought I’d get my feet wet and start expressing my own opinions, just as Amanda and the rest of you have done.

I myself am not a democrat, but I don’t call myself a republican, either. I’m a conservative. I like president’s like Reagan. Bush is irresponsible, but on the other hand Kerry was terribly Hollywood. He comes from a line of democrats originated by celebrities. He wasn’t a true democrat. Gore was a democrat, and Kennedy. In the future of my college career, I hope to start or be involved in some sort of College Conservative group, much like your College Democrats, and I’d love to the the two organizations work together to educate our fellow students, for better or for worse. I haven’t seen the UNO republican group do much of anything since I came here. I commend you all for your strength, but democracy works with several parts. Parties need to bounce ideas off of each other to give the people an educated disision about who to vote for. Am I right?

I apologize if what I said personally offended anyone. My intentions were god in nature. My goal is simply to better myself and the rest of the student body as a whole through balanced information and politics.

By: Daniel O

Daniel O — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:15:40 +0000

I would have to agree, what makes us better are differences.

Kerry was Hollywood, they all are. I once heard a joke that politics is Hollywood for ugly people. I like to think that it is true.

Anyway, good posting guys, it has been interesting to say the least.

By: Chad

Chad — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:27:18 +0000

I would like to commend the UNO College Democrats for their blog. This political discussion among America´s educated youth is precisely what is essential on college campuses. As a registered independent UNO student from Iowa, I must say that your organization does a great job of presenting a positive image of Mayor Fahey and the other Democratic candidates while simply bringing to light the mishaps of their counterparts. This type of political activity is what is needed in this country; a group of open minded young individuals bringing to a campus positive politics. While finding flaws in your opposition, never stop bringing to light the good in your candidate. Negative campaigns win, but never with dignity, and rarely if up against a well run positive campaign.

Capture the audience with controversy, but real them in with compassion.

By: J.T.

J.T. — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:51:11 +0000

Thank you daniel O, and with that I’d like to ask a straight forward and serious question, and I’d like as many of you to respond as possible. How many of you would support to formation of a college conservative club, like briefly mentioned before? Some of my party’s veiws condradict your own, but isn’t that what America is about? We need competition in our lives and our country in order to keep us strong. Our two groups would be in competition, but that’s a good thing. Plus, we can work together on general volunteer work to better our school, city, state and nation. What more could be expected? We could hold debates, watch political speeches on television and have discussions. We can educate our student body.

This is only my first step in getting a backing for the group. I hope to recruit some of the members of the republican club, as well as some moderates who haven’t made a disision between parties. Let’s face it, what has the republican club really done recently? I haven’t seen much activity. Seriously, I’d like to be enlightened, someone please tell me.

So what do you say?

By: Abbey

Abbey — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:48:43 +0000

I know that I am in no way conservative, I don’t think your little club would be good for me.

Amanda- Say whatever you want. I think you should be able to. I got your back.

By: J.T.

J.T. — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:05:38 +0000

I think you misunder stood me, abbey. I’m not trying to convert democrats to conservatives, I’m trying to promote healthy competition. The only reason conservatives run under the republican flag is because they’re the most popular frontrunners closest to conservatives. Don’t judge the group because they throw around the word republican. There are several differences. I can’t stand the neo-republicans we have in washington right now.

Once again, this is another example of the education process at work.

By: Cody

Cody — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:28:56 +0000

The only way to truly be informed is to be exposed to both sides of an issue. The more ideas out there the better, and I would really like to hold debates. I remeber we tried to have a debate with the College Republicans around the election last fall and they balked at the idea. I would love to take the political atmosphere on campus to the next level. For the time being though, a new group has recently started up to try to do what you mentioned, that is informing the student body. Americans for Informed Democracy is a non-partisain group that is working with both the College Democrats, College Republicans, and other politically minded groups to try to raise the bar of political discourse on campus. I fully encourage you all to look into this new orgainization.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 04:37:37 +0000

I am up for debates. I am just glad we have cody on our side, he is our master debater.
I also think that working together for the community would be nothing but good.

By: Jay

Jay — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:22:55 +0000

someone much smarter than me, and much more eloquent once said something to the effect of it being important to have multiple perspectives on issues, not so much as to see what is good and bad, but to know what you believe and know what is stupid.

By: J.T.

J.T. — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:24:40 +0000

ouch… -.o